Episode 4

How do corporate profits incentivize war?

Published on: 29th September, 2026

In 2026, there are more active conflicts than at any other time since World War II. Globally, defense spending is reaching new heights. For most of us, this is horrible news. But for arms producing companies, it’s all good: revenues are skyrocketing. So, in this episode we ask: how do corporate profits incentivize war?

Guests:

Andrew Feinstein is the Executive Director of Shadow World Investigations. Originally from South Africa, he was a member of the African National Congress (ANC), which was voted into Parliament in the country’s first post-apartheid election. He served on several oversight Committees, but eventually resigned from his position in protest of the ANC and government’s refusal to allow a full investigation into massive corruption in a $10 billion arms deal. Andrew is the author of several books on the arms trade including The Shadow World: Inside the Global Arms Trade. You can follow Andrew on X at @andrewfeinstein and Instagram at @andrewfeinstein.

Janet Abou-Elias is a co-founder of Women for Weapons Trade Transparency and a researcher with the Democratizing Foreign Policy Program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. Her research focuses on arms trade policies, international humanitarian law, and U.S. foreign policy. Connect with Janet on Linkedin here and on X at @janetabouelias.

This conversation was recorded on July 27th, 2026.

Correction: Both guests mention an incident that occurred on February 28, 2026, when the U.S. bombed a girl’s school in Minab, Iran. The guests cite different numbers of fatalities from this attack. We found slightly different numbers that also include some adults and boys. Here are some resources:

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Disrupting Peace is a production of The World Peace Foundation. The show is produced by Bridget Conley and Emily Shaw. Engineering by Jacob Winik and Aja Simpson. Marketing and Social media by Frayashti Shekhawat. Show artwork by Simon Fung.

Disrupting Peace is a production of The World Peace Foundation. This episode was produced by Bridget Conley, Emily Shaw, and Anna Van Dine. Engineering by Jacob Winik and Aja Simpson. Marketing and Social media by Frayashti Shekhawat. Show artwork by Simon Fung.

Special thanks to Lisa Avery, Michelle Anderson, Alex de Waal, Anna Van Dine, and the Tufts Digital Design Studio team.

Find out more about the World Peace Foundation at worldpeacefoundation.org. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok at @worldpeacefdtn.

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Disrupting Peace
Disrupting Peace explores why peace hasn’t worked, and how it still could. In each episode, Bridget Conley, research director at the World Peace Foundation, speaks with a researcher specializing in one obstacle to peace, and an activist who’s changing systems from the ground up. Together they explore what worked, what didn’t, and why we shouldn’t give up.

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Bridget Conley is Research Director at the World Peace Foundation (WPF) and an Associate Research Professor at The Fletcher School, Tufts University. She leads WPF’s research programs on atrocity response and incarceration. She works closely with the Executive Director on project development, fundraising and strategic vision for WPF. Currently, her primary research focus concerns the implications of American mass incarceration for local, national and international policies.